"The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Video, 00:01:20, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. There is no doubt about that.". If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Enter your email address to receive our monthly newsletter and to be notified about new posts. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near Learn more about managing a memorial . The murder of Muriel Drinkwater ,[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Photo added by Graceti. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. Thanks again for sharing this. Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. The savage nature of the attack stands out from other rapes. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. [4] In 2019, the DNA was used to rule out notorious Welsh murderer Harold Jones as a suspect. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. Or was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time? It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. Muriel's death was known at the time as the Little Red Riding Hood Murder because of the bright red coat she was wearing. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. . Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. Hi. In August, the police appealed to the U.S. public for assistance, as many Americans had been stationed in Penllergaer during the recent Second World War and there was a possibility one of the servicemen had sold the weapon. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. Just before she entered the woods she looked up to see the farm in the distance. She was sexually assaulted and strangled and last seen with an American soldier. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. Something went wrong, please try again later. Video, 00:02:36, Up Next. They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. Your email address will not be published. Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. taken from Jones exhumed body can the police honestly say catergorically that Jones was or was not Muriels killer. Advertisement. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. He died at that address in 1971. Neil. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. Up Next. https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. I was made aware the following day that my request would NOT be granted. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Request number 772/21. 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They visited the Carmarthen bookshop to identify if the killers family had taken the books there. ~ Christine. ", * Dark Land: Hunting the Killers is on BBC iPlayer, School friends at the grave of Muriel Drinkwater, whose murder in 1946 remains one of the most horrifying in Welsh history. More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Interesting case Christine. Hi Neil. Thanks again and take care. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". D.S. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. Ms Darby says: "He denied killing his relatives at all. Evernote. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. "My grandparents changed completely. What a big moment in this case! That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. "This was a terrible, terrible crime that someone has got away with for too long. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. 'Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case. This was a big news story at the time. Only by comparing D.N.A. programme called Crime Secrets presented by H.T.Vs Jonathan Hill. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. Read about our approach to external linking. 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The True Crime Files Hi Sherlock. Murder. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. This forensic approach is becoming more common. Pinterest. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Read about our approach to external linking. She may or may NOT have been Jones biological daughter. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. 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Some companies will provide you with upto 6 generations. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. 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Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. Updated: August 30, 2013 . As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". I would like to request an internal review of (an adverse) decision made by South Wales Police regarding information I requested on 28-6-21. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. Great questions! [12][13], For more than a decade, Welsh true crime author Neil Milkins theorised that notorious child murderer Harold Jones (19061971) was responsible for the murders of both Martin and Drinkwater. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. Taking into consideration all of the above information and the decades that have passed since Muriel was killed, I think that the only way this case will be closed is through a familial DNA match. Psychic Diane Lazarus. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. from Ron Harries and his cousin and from Muriels coat and yet are not releasing the results of the tests. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. Follow. 2023 BBC. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. A brother, nephew, grandson. Both girls were murdered in woods within a half mile of their homes. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. Please let us know how it goes. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. I have requested information regarding the cost of the re-investigation of Muriels murder since 2008. 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